The Great Dinosaur Mystery Solved! Part 3

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Continued From part 2

Contents

Original Sin

On pages 17 and 18, there is an emotional plea from Ham, invoking Genesis 3:21 in the Bible to justify it. He claims that animal and people death is the result of Adam's sin, which is all a form of the Original Sin doctrine. Just like Ham's statement, the Original Sin doctrine is completely unbiblical. This page will tell us why. Ham claims also that dinosaurs fossils (let alone other fossils) were not millions of years old because death, disease, and suffering only came after Adam has sinned. This page, however in Rich Deem's godandscience.org site, nixes the claim. Sin actually came to the world when Satan rebelled against God. After a long hard fight for the throne, Satan and his fallen angels was kicked out of Heaven. The prophet Isaiah spoke of this in Isaiah 14:12-15 when he referred Satan as the “Morning Star.” When God told Adam that he will die if he eats the forbidden fruit, it implies that Adam must have seen death occurring among the animals to get the idea of what death is like and when plants are eaten and digested, a form of decay, inside of a person and animal's body, they die. So, Ham's claim about one cannot accept both the Bible and evolution because it contradicts the notion of bloodshed and violence occurring after the Fall is completely flawed.

Emotionalism

Since they have no facts, they resort to emotionalism instead to get the gullible to believe their lies and follow their wicked ways. What he said clearly implies that God is evil and merciless not allowing death and carnivory, especially when he actually gave them everything of what it takes to do the killing and eat meat. And since disease and pain is also evil, then why did God created the germs that causes diseases and germs to defend us from the germs that cause disease and to create pain that actually serves as a method of defense, even against touching a burning hot iron? If death, decay, pain, and disease and carnivory is evil, then so is God. A blasphemous thought don't you think? Science clearly shows us that both of these things are a necessary part of life to stabilize ecosystems and to benefit all life on earth. There is a detailed article made that deals with this issue you can see right here.

"What did dinosaurs really look like?"

The rest of page 18 addresses the question, “What did dinosaurs really look like?” A jackpot question. No one knows what did dinosaurs really look like when they were alive millions of years ago. Even scientists are asking the same question everybody else is asking. YECs like Ham don't know either, yet they resort to stupid lies and says that when scientists dig up dinosaur bones, they only dig up just bones with no flesh found still intact. Mostly so, but what about the fossils of dinosaurs with a coat of feathers all over their bodies and Scipionyx, the dinosaur with liver and other internal organ impressions? They have impressions of soft tissues found still intact both inside and out. There is even dinosaur fossils with skin imprints on them as well. With these and other fossil clues (Even a single bone tells the scientist a whole lot about the animal.), scientists can make up a picture of dinosaurs based on those remains as well as, (despite what Ham claims) compare fragmentary fossils with complete fossils to figure out what dinosaur group the fossil is related to, which is far, much more than 40% than what Ham assumes in the book. Reference: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC401.html

Scientific Mistakes

Ham then stated that scientists make mistakes sometimes and shows an example of this by telling the story of the mistake involving the Apatosaurus (Deceptive Lizard) skeleton that was given a wrong head and was called Brontosaurus (Thunder Lizard) for a long time. It was in 1975 when 2 scientists discovered the flaw and told everybody about it. Immediately scientists went to work correcting the fossil and renaming the dinosaur Apatosaurus because the name was given first before the name Brontosaurus was given. Yes, scientists do make mistakes sometimes. So do the YECs, but instead of admitting their mistakes and correcting them once the mistake is known, YECs like Ham, unlike real scientists, would hide them and repeat the same mistake over and over again without giving themselves a second thought. Note: See Keynote for an exception at the end of this essay.

"Where did Dinosaurs Come From?"

Page 19 is a doosy. The question is asked, “Where do dinosaurs come from and when did they live?” The answer: Dinosaurs developed from basal Archosauriforms such as Euparkeria from the early Triassic Period that have fully erect leg posture similar to that of birds and mammals. Secondly, Dinosaurs lived between 225 million to 65 million years ago in the time period called the Mesozoic era. It is divided up into 3 periods, The Triassic, the Jurassic, and the Cretaceous. Their reign lasted for about 160 million years until their demise that occurred 65 million years ago, leaving behind birds as their descendants as well as traces of fossils to tell us their story. Ham, on the other hand, thinks this is all a lie; claiming that evolutionists cannot defend their interpretation of the evidence, which is a blatant lie. They have made observations of evolution in action, have tested, falsified it, and have multi-scores of evidence supporting it. Everything you see in real dinosaur books is all the result of years and years of hard work, testing facts and theories based on evidence, intensive study, and research. Everything about science is self correcting, correcting their mistakes once their mistakes are known. On the other hand, YECs' own ideas about dinosaurs are all the work of their own imaginative, creative minds, slander, bigotry, hoaxes, twisted fairy tales, faulty bible interpretations, science fiction, lies, falsehoods, and no valid evidence to boot.

Hebrew Word "Yom"

Next, Ham give out the myth of the Hebrew word “yom” for “day” to only mean a normal 24 hour day. Problem is, the word “yom” refers to not just that specific kind of day. It can mean “certain periods of time” as well as a week, a month, a year, a decade, or an eon. It all depends on how it is used. When the Apostle Peter says “The Day of the Lord is like a thousand years,” he doesn't mean a 24 hour day, but a period of time. For a long time, according to traditional Christian views of the Creation Story, each day represents a extensive period of time. Which means the creation of the world may have taken billions of years to do. Since God is eternal and was not in a hurry to do creative things, He must have taken at lot of time for him to create a beautiful and complex universe for us to behold and marvel at. God must have been singing a Mister Rogers tune “I like to take my time.” when he made the universe in a 20 billion years time. YECs, on the other hand, made it to look as if He was in a hurry and spent each 24 hours a day for 6 normal days just to speed up the creation, making mistakes, and wasted certain created things like carnivore teeth and germs that are supposedly made to do one thing. Yet, they were expected by God to do the other. Even speed up evolution of complex animals from the basic ones. Punctuated Equilibrium (fast evolution) style. Yet, turned around and have the YECs say to the audience that evolution is all a lie and made up to promote evil, satanic things. What a warped and sick minded YEC's god is, making it all for a short time and say it is all good, while it's not. This is what YEC's own view of creation clearly implies to. A wasteful, hurry-up God who hastily has created everything and wasted them all in one normal week.

6,000 Year Myth

Just like all YECs, Ham claims that the world was created 6,000 years ago (based on Archbishop James Ussher's (1581-1656) attempted calculations of the Biblical time line and genealogies.), which is the time of the building of Stonehenge and the Egyptian Predynastic Era. Ham says that this is approximate, obtained by adding up the dates of the Bible. Something he got from the Archbishop as well. Yet, this idea is totally flawed as mentioned before. If the world was created 6,000 years ago, then that would be in the year 3995 BC or BCE at the time of the building of Stonehenge and the Predynastic Era of Egypt. Egypt has a 5,000 year history, Stonehenge has a 5,000-6,000 year old history, and China has a 10,000 year history making it one of the oldest civilizations in the world, so the concept of the earth and universe being 6,000 years old is completely flawed.

Human Dominion

Page 20 says, According to the Bible, God gave man dominion over all animals like a king being given dominion over the entire land and everything in it, just like it is told in Genesis 1:28. No big deal. However, the only dinosaurs man will ever handle will be birds. Only in sci-fi media and the Edenic Cult do we see Mesozoic dinosaurs being handled by man. Ham then compares today's world with Hebrews 2:8, which Ham takes out of context and changed the interpretations of it to fit his views. In full text, the verse is actually part of the whole passage that talks about Jesus and how He was made to be like a normal human being just like everybody else to serve a special purpose for all mankind.

Meaningless Question

Another question is addressed. A meaningless one. “Does God tell us when he made Tyrannosaurs Rex? “ Yes, through scientific evidence, we are told, through God, that T.rex appeared between 70 and 67 million years ago during the late Cretaceous period in what is now North America. Ham, on the other hand, claims that T.rex was made on the fictional day six of the YE creation story. Honestly, he's not building up our thinking on the Bible, he is really tearing down our thinking on the Bible, making us all into doofus ignoramuses, who could not tell fact from fantasy. Page 21 reveals a nifty T.rex picture with a strawman classification of the Tyrant located right next to him.

About T.rex

Pages 22-25 tells of a twisted strawman version of Tyrannosaurus featuring, in some cases, outdated descriptions of T,rex and many YE falsehoods about him, including his eating habits. YECs reasoned falsely that since God in Genesis 1:30 has “commanded” that all animals must eat plants, then T.rex must have been a vegetarian before the Fall as well, eating melons, coconuts, gourds and others kinds of vegetarian foods that will actually give the Tyrant a very bad belly ache, make him very sick, and have all of his carnivore teeth, jaws, see forward eyes, and stomach to digest red meat be wasted away and rendered useless. Also, in the section, there is a twisted story about the Tyrant's discovery that was in fact made in 1902, not 1900 and was named Tyrannosaurus Rex by Henry Farfield Osborn 3 years later in 1905. Ham is about 2 years off in the discovery and 5 years off in naming the tyrant dinosaur (Ham wants everyone to believe in the made-up crackpot notion of Adam being the first to discovered the dinosaurs, while in fact no one, not even Adam, has ever discovered them until the early 1800's in Sussex England where Mary Ann Mantell, the wife of Gideon Mantell, first picked up some strange teeth that no one has ever seen before. Those strange iguana-like teeth Mary found would later be identified as Iguanodon teeth. Thus, becoming the first of great many discoveries of dinosaur fossils ever made by man.). Another one that's unearthed is the one the YECs claimed to have red blood cells inside of a bone, while in fact there's none. And then there is the story about Sue, the world's most complete Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil ever dug up by man, how she was a subject of a court battle over ownership, and how she was sold to the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago for over 8 million dollars in an auction held in 1997. Just like before, YECs would claim that the injuries that Sue have suffered, after a run in with a rival T.rex, were all the result of Adam's Fall. This is part of the YECs' own version of the Blame Game as well as the Original Sin Doctrine. YECs blame the disease and suffering of animals on Adam's fall. Yet, this remark denigrates God's character. God is known to condemn the wicked while the innocent goes free. The real guilty ones that were punished with The Curse of Sin are the ones who have deliberately sinned against God and the guilty ones are none other than Adam, Eve, and the snake.

Made-up Rediscoveries

On Page 26, Ham gives out the twisted history of dinosaur discovery and reveals a made up falsehood about who discovered dinosaurs. Ham claims Adam discovered the dinosaurs 6,000 years ago at Creation week only to be rediscovered thousands of years later. Pure fantasy.

Evidence That's Not There

Ham, on page 27, brings on more falsehood by claiming there are lots of historical evidence of dinosaurs living with humans which don't exist at all. If it is such a case, then we would find, as I said, fossils of dinosaurs and humans mixed together in the fossil record, but none are found, nor will they ever be found!

Origin of "Dinosaur"

Next we get to the question, “Where did the word “dinosaur” come from? The world 'dinosaur' is invented by Sir Richard Owen in 1842, not 1841. Actually, he coined the word “Dinosauria,” which means “Fearfully Great Lizards” on a journal paper he wrote shortly after speaking in a scientific meeting one day to describe 3 fossilized remains of animals that are not like any other, Megalosaurus, Iguanodon, and Hylaeosaurus. Ham thinks that if Owen has known about the rest (in big capitol letters) of the dinosaurs, which he never did, he may have never even coined the word.

Question: How was he and all others supposed to know about it when no one has ever seen, heard, or knew anything about them? The answer is, they don't. NO one, not even caveman, nor bible people, not even Adam and Eve has ever seen, heard, and knew a dog gone thing about dinosaurs. No one has ever saw, knew, or heard them alive, except birds. And what has the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible have to do with dinosaurs? The answer is zilch. Yet, Ham thinks the opposite. No doubt Ham has no knowledge about theology, especially about Bible history as well as Medieval history. He doesn't understand dinosaurs. The next part shows an example on how does he know nothing about what he says.

Continued to part 4

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