Talk:Fossils sorted by ability to escape
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There is a significant period of time recorded in the fossil record where flowering plants and dinosaurs co-exist, so the statement that angiosperms are always found above dinosaurs is quite mistaken. I will be writing an overall article on fossil sorting (as soon as I figure out how to add a new page to evowiki) and then cleaning up some of these articles, so I'm not changing this now. --Suttkus 07:42, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
- Adding a new page - well, I always edit an existing one, adding a link to the new page. Then I click on the red link. Such a link will be needed anyway since articles are not supposed to be lonely islands. --tk (t) 08:06, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
- Actually I discovered that entering a full page name in the search box and hitting the Go button brings up a page (not found) that has the "link" to the new page and clicking on that ("this exact title", in red) will get you to the beginning of a new page. I used to add links (certainly OK) but sometimes didn't really need the link so this is more direct. --Dmill96 05:14, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Hopefully, there's at least one flowering plant that really does post-date all dinosaurs (okay, all dinosaurs other than birds, I mean). Failing that, it should be possible to find a particular Plant X which post-dates all dinosaurs, and use that for an example? Cubist 11:35, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
- How about beech trees? Magnolias are famous for being "primitive/ancient" flowering trees, with fossils dating to about 95 million years ago. Beech tree fossils date back to the Eocene. --Mr A. 16:13, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
- I'd have used the grasses as an example not long ago, but somebody went and found some Cretaceous grass fossils, completely ruining a perfectly good argument. :-) --Suttkus 07:43, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
- You could always compare Paleozoic fossils to grass, like, say, Gorgonops.--Mr A. 15:58, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
- I'd have used the grasses as an example not long ago, but somebody went and found some Cretaceous grass fossils, completely ruining a perfectly good argument. :-) --Suttkus 07:43, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
Now we have the "majority" being "always" higher than "most". A bit too many weasel words... --Suttkus 04:49, 16 March 2006 (GMT)
- Sorry, but, the first flowering plants popped up around the middle of the Mesozoic, the height of the age of dinosaurs, after all.--Mr A. 05:04, 16 March 2006 (GMT)
Brachiopods are not "always" found below mollusks. Quite the contrary, since brachiopods aren't extinct, we would expect, and find, them to exist throughout the fossil record, right up to the most recent layers. Did you, perhaps, mean that they are found in lower layers, having evolved first? (I'm not sure if this is true, just guessing.) --Suttkus 03:24, 13 May 2006 (BST)
- Good point, I meant that, the most plentiful brachiopod fossils are from the Cambrian through the Silurian, before the first clams evolved. Yeah, the brachiopods are still alive, but, they're a literal ghostly shadow of their former glory.--Mr A. 05:14, 13 May 2006 (BST)
- Thank you!--Mr A. 07:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)
