Talk:Endosymbiotic theory
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It seems logical that the work of naturalist Jean Baptiste Lamarck be included here. He tried but could not prove there is a biological "will" or consciousness that can change the anatomy of a species. Charles Darwin could not escape the idea in terms of "use or disuse" of organs which today has to include organelles inside cells that used to be independent organisms during the very early stages of evolution. As a writer working on the atheism of knowledge I follow how biology seems to be approaching the material basis for the existence of a soul in humans and a spirit in animals that guides evolution when the conditions are appropriate. This new frontier requires that biologists begin looking inside the atom at the electrons themselves where life continues to function in terms of memory. I claim that the genes in DNA are the electrons that hold the double helix together as a molecule. Joe Duhaime P.O. Box 24533 Denver, Colorado 80224 USA
Duhaime, your ideas (as expressed here) are unconvincing, at best. We know that mutations (the ultimate 'driving force' behind evolution, or at least the ultimate source of variation for natural selection to work with) are statistically random with respect to the needs of an organism -- see also: "Luria-Delbruck experiments" -- so where does a "biological 'will' " come into it? Your last two sentences, about "the electrons themselves where life consinues to function" and "the genes in DNA are the electrons", ignore various facts which are actually known about genes and atoms and so on; as best I can tell, you're pretty much spewing word salad here. New theories are great. Spouting off semi-random verbiage in ignorance of the evidence... isn't. I would strongly suggest that you learn some real biology, or, if you actually do knw some real biology, that you allow yourself to incorporate that knowledge into your speculations.
What's with the non-functioning pictures at the bottom? --VLS 17:15, 8 Sep 2004 (BST)
Isn't it now thought that there were at least 3 independent symbioses that created chloroplasts, because of the different pigments found in different chloroplasts? The wiki suggests that endosymbiosis leading to chloroplast formation occurred only once.--131.111.200.200 22:15, 19 February 2006 (GMT)
