Dinosaurs and the Bible, Unfred D, Part 2
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YE Flood Folly
Noah's flood was not responsible for the Maiasaura fossil grave site made up of 10,000 Maiasauria fossil eggs, young, sub-adult and full grown adult. See Oard's Flood Follies for details. According to fossil evidence, the Maiasauria were all killed in an ash fall 80 million years ago when a volcano erupted near by where they lived. Unfred then states that those who don't believe the Bible (or don't they?) say that an asteroid hit the earth, creating a global disaster that wiped out the dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and all other 60% of life on earth. Unfred says that they are close to what the Bible teaches about the flood; thus becoming harder to reject [sic] true history that is recorded in God's word, which it's not there. If they are close to what the so-called Bible of the YECs teaches is true, then how come we are finding none of what the "Letter of the Law" claims to be true concerning about the fossil record? How come what is recorded in so-called God's Word according to the YECs is anything BUT true? Why is the fossil record telling us that the fossils are all the result of local floods, volcanic eruptions, droughts, failed attempt to cross rivers at flood stages, killed off by predators, and sandstorms? No doubt of YECs complete ignorance. Many times scientists unveil evidence of evolution and an old earth to the YECs, only for them to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to them because they are themselves convinced that their ways is right and true and not evolution. None of the YECs have a single honest answer for all of the questions being asked about how the fossils are formed and why did dinosaurs became extinct. They don't have an honest answer to the question, 'If God wanted to salvage all of the animals especially dinosaurs, then why are they extinct?' either. So, they make up lies about them as they go along and falsely call them 'truth.'
Ice Age Idiocy
One of the falsehood YECs made up to explain the dinosaur extinction is the Ice Age myth that says the Ice Age occurred after the flood killing off many animals including wooly mammoths, rhinos and dinosaurs; invoking their own interpretation of Job 37:9-10 to justify their faulty claim. This claim, however, is totally refuted on these 2 web pages as shown right here and here.
Dragon Lie
Another falsehood is the dinosaur-as-dragon myth where people have meet, fought, and kill dinosaurs the ancients regards as dragons. But just as I explained before in my previous essays, dinosaurs and dragons are not one and the same, because dinosaurs, especially pterosaurs, unlike dragons, never had snake like bodies at all. The word dragon come from the Greek word “drakon” meaning snake or serpent. Every dragon tale in ancient manuscripts describes a dragon that has a body that resembles that of a snake. Something dinosaurs and pterosaurs don't have at all. There is no evidence of any kind of men killing off dinosaurs ever been found in all of ancient history. Dinosaurs, except birds, were long dead by the time the first humans came along around 4 million years ago. Yet YECs still continued to spread these lies around in order to keep their followers in line.
The Importance of Conservation
Then, Unfred claims that many animals today are becoming extinct by man who have been hunting them down for their furs, tusks, and horns and changing the environment around making deserts where where forest and grassland used to be. True, but it isn't just Christians who need to be concerned over the environment as well as the people's needs. It should be everybody, especially people of all faiths who needs to find a balance in taking care of God's creation as well as meeting the needs of the people, which we do find such a case; by forming many organizations that do meet the needs of the people as well as clean up the environment like Habitat for Humanity, the AD Council, World Wildlife Federation, and the SPCA (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals). These are some of the best examples of organizations that do such things to make a huge difference in this world. These great organizations do care and work very hard to protect the environment as well as care for the people needs all over the world and so much more, making the world a much better place for them to live in than before.
Why Are Dinosaurs Huge?
Pages 26 and 27 deals with the question, “Why were dinosaurs so large?” Of course dinosaurs came in many different shapes and sizes and many dinosaurs were indeed huge. Unfred gave some examples of Seismosaurus and Ultrasaurus (Ultrasauros) being the longest and the tallest of the dinosaurs. He also mentions about dinosaurs hatching from eggs and says the largest egg in the world is the extinct 'elephant bird' the moa. He also mentions about the largest dinosaur egg, which it's about 10 inches long. It was laid by a Titanosaurid, a sauropod known as Hypselosaurus from the Late Cretaceous period of Europe. Unfred even tells of eggs of Maiasaura being found in Montana in an area that is known as Egg Mountain and then tackles the mystery, How do dinosaurs got so big after they hatched from a small egg? What this book neglects to tell the reader is that in recent years, scientists learned that dinosaurs grow up real fast. One example is that of Sauropods; giant size dinosaurs that can amazingly grow from hatchling to an adult within a matter of 10-15 years. In other cases dinosaurs, like Maiasaura, can grow from hatchling to an adult in a matter of 4-5 years. However no one don't know for sure how long did dinosaurs lived when it come to their life spans. However, Unfred gives out an exaggerating life span of a Seismosaurus to be several hundred years old, which it's highly unlikely. It has been estimated for sauropods to live to be between 100 and 200 years old. Other dinosaurs lived much less than that, but still this is all based on guesswork, when it comes to figure out their life span. Despite what Unfred says, the Haversian canals within the dinosaur bone is used not to determined their age, but to determined their growth rate. This is how scientists can learned how fast dinosaurs can grow by just studying those canals in the bone. They learned dinosaurs have more canals in the bones than reptiles. This most likely means that they are warm blooded even though there is a debate going on about whether dinosaurs are either warm blooded or cold blooded.
Canopy Myth
Unfred, on page 28, claim the old vapor canopy myth to be the ones responsible for making the earth a very warm place back then, which to the YECs explain how did dinosaurs lived in the North Pole according to the book. But if there ever was a vapor canopy, then the earth would be exactly like Venus, scorching hot and inhospitable. On Glen Morton's website, there is an article that addresses the Vapor canopy myth and how it is flawed. You can see it right here.
Footprint Folly
Most of pages 28 and 29 talks about mostly dinosaur footprints. Unfred claim the footprints were preserved in the flood, while actually if there ever was such a flood, the footprints would have easily eroded away. He even guess the sauropod footprints indicate the sauropod adults were protecting their young from a great wall of water. There's no evidence of it. How can the footprints be preserved by Noah's flood while the violent flood waters, the craters, the volcanoes, and the earthquakes would actually destroy them? And why are the footprints show of dinosaurs walking instead of running? See Oard's Foot Track Follies for more on this. This book also features the Paluxy footprint myth involving alleged human footprints found alongside of dinosaur prints at the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas. Unfred asks, “Does this is evidence of dinosaurs and people together at the Paluxy? The real answer is no. Unfred claims that evolutionists does not want any evidence to exist for man and dinosaurs living at the same time. Reason? Because there's none!
Paluxy Hoax
Turns out that the prints were nothing more than poorly preserved dinosaur prints carved into human prints by YEC hoaxers to attract gullible tourists to that part of the area. To know more about the Paluxy myth, click here. Many YECs, even those fraudulent Answers In Genesis (AIG) people have abandoned the Paluxy claim and is even featured in the list of arguments they think creationists should not use as shown right here. Still, there are YECs who still defend the Paluxy myth, like Carl Baugh for instance. He has his small pseudo-museum set up in Glen Rose, Texas not too far away from the Dinosaur Valley State Park (A thorn of the side of the park!), which contains some alleged artifacts that to him shows evidence of a young earth, while in fact those artifacts are really fakes, frauds, hoaxes, and something else. For example, the so-called fossil finger, he thinks it's real and promotes, is actually a shrimp burrow carved into a human finger. Another one, the so-called man's tooth is really a fish tooth found near the alleged human foot tracks. And finally, the so-called antediluvian pre-flood hammer is actually a miners hammer dated a few hundred years ago that's discarded and eroded into the Mesozoic rock. Baugh even have helped to made a YEC program called The Mysterious Origins of Man, a show that met with a lot of criticism and ridicule. To know more about the program and the hoaxes that Baugh made up and advocate, click here and here.
Pterosaurs
Pages 30 and 31, now deals with pterosaurs, flying reptiles that soared the skies above the dinosaurs all throughout the Mesozoic era, millions of years ago. On those pages, Unfred claim the fabled canopy with thicker denser air have provided the dinosaurs to breathe and for pterosaurs to fly with ease. This myth has no merit. If the canopy was the case the earth (like I said) would make the Earth be like Venus, Hot and inhospitable. No dinosaur will ever breathe with ease and no pterosaur will ever fly. They will all be roasted and scorched to death if there ever was such a canopy! On the lower right hand corner of page 31, there is an address for families to go on a dinosaur dig that isn't really a dig at all. But an indoctrination camp where hapless families go to be indoctrinated into YECism through seminars and field trips to careful selective places where they think there is nothing in the area that will refute their YEC doctrine, or so they think. To know how do YECs like those in Texas indoctrinate people, click here.
Cryptozoology
Now on pages 32 - 37 deals with the issue of cryptozoology and the 4 stories. One is the catching of a living coelacanth, a fish, the YECs claim, that debunks evolution, but what the fishermen caught in 1938 is really a different species of coelacanth called Latimeria chalumnae, in the family Latimeriidae. The coelacanth that became extinct 70 million years ago is the species Coelacanthidae, a species with a much different anatomy than the modern coelacanth. The other is the alleged last pterosaur story, on page 34, which tells of a living pterosaur sighting being made at the railway tunnel construction site in France. That is actually a hoax. A hoax you can read about here for details. Next is the Plesiosaur myth, also found on page 34 and 35, involving a strange fisherman's catch on a Japenese fisherman's boat, that is later known to be a basking shark. And finally, the alleged sightings of Mokele Mebembe in the African Congo Basin found on pages 36 and 37 has no evidence of fully intact dinosaurs being found as well as eggs, valid footprints, valid photos, valid writings, nesting grounds, youngsters, and bones found in that area in Africa. The story about the African Native's encounter with the creature as told in the book is most likely fictitious. If you want to prove these story to be true, you must have valid evidence for all of this which included a fully intact dinosaur, pterosaur, and Mesozoic marine reptile, But none are found. So it is highly inconsistent and unaccounted for to endorse these myths to prove this young earth myth to be true.
Reference,
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/aig_and_myths_henke.htm
YECism Teach Nothing
Now we get to pages 38 – 41 where we are asked, “What can dinosaurs teach us?” As stupid and meaningless as, “Did God created dinosaurs?; Are there Dinosaurs in the Bible?; Did dinosaurs really lived millions of years ago?; Did T.rex really eat meat?;” and other stupid meaningless questions being made and answered stupidly by YECs and other fundies in an effort to cast doubt into the minds of the people into being duped and beguiled into believing in their side. The simple answer to the question asked on page 38 is nothing! They teach nothing about the bible and morality. But YECs think they do and gives out the so-called salvation message that totally sets the people up for the fall. The salvation message is useless, destructive, and dangerous. This web page will tell you why.
Appendixes
Now we get to the appendixes part of the book on pages 42-45 which tells of the vegetarian T.rex myth and the Biblical creation model of Earth's history that's totally flawed to the core. First is the Veggie eating T.rex myth that is full of laughs. Unfred states, in this book, that unlike evolutionists, creation “scientists” make up hypotheses based on scientific facts and their own biases (ideas) about what happened in the past. The truth is totally the opposite. The thing YECs claim to do is exactly what they claim evolutionists do, while YECs, on the other hand make up lies, slander, false evidence, false witnesses, take quotes, images, and parts of ancient legends out of text and changed then to fit their own views; interpreting them the every way they want it to be, and engaging in bickering, mudsling, scapegoating, insulting; being arrogant and excommunicate those that oppose their views, discriminating, be prejudice, much, much more.
In the first section, Pages 42 and 43 YECs claim T.rex was a plant-eater because the teeth of his would have snapped off in battle. YECs claim the teeth has shallow roots which it actually doesn't. The teeth of T.rex is deeply rooted, highly thick, conical, long lasting, homodontical, and very powerful. When a tooth breaks off, it doesn't matter, for a new on will grow to take the place of the old one. T.rex have been known to have teeth that is up to 6 inches long but recent fossils of T.rex shows us that the teeth of T.rex were much, much longer than we thought. One fossil of T.rex has teeth that measures a whopping 13 inches long. YECs, like Unfred, compares T.rex teeth with the teeth of a spider monkey to convinced the gullible that just because the animal has sharp teeth doesn't mean it is a meat eater. This is flawed. It's the same as if to say just because an animal has blunt teeth doesn't mean it eats plants. It just comes to show that YECs knows absolutely nothing about animal dentistry and the fact that the spider monkey's teeth is made up of biters, molars, and canine teeth, which is what those kinds of sharp teeth are called. They are called canines. These 3 types of teeth are featured exclusively in mammals. However, one dinosaur, Heterodontosaurus, also had 3 sets of teeth too. This is a plant-eater that used his biters to bite at plants (actually it is a diurnal omnivore. It eats bugs and eggs too.), molars for chewing plants, and “canines” for probably defensive weapons against their enemies. It is said only males have those canine like teeth they probably used them for intimidate rivals and fight back when attacked. The spider monkey's canines, smooth, thin, and blunt at the point, could never have tear up raw meat for its teeth is too weak to do that. T.rex teeth is, strong, thick, rigid, homodontical, and sharp at the point; capable of tearing at raw meat and punctured through bone without a problem. Thus, it is totally useless to compare T.rex teeth with the teeth of a spider monkey to prove a myth to be true. If God wanted all animals especially T.rex to eat plants, He should've never wasted his creative rescources by giving some of the animals all of what it takes to be carnivore such as sharp claws and teeth, a stomach for only red food (meat), and strong legs to chase after meals and yet demands them to only eat plants.
Reference to Tyrannosaurus rex, The King of the Dinosaurs is right here.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/museum/public/rexmount.html
Also, see Young Earther's Lie About The Dinosaur's Diet for more discussion of this fallacy.
The Creation Model
The second section on page 44 and 45 is the Creation Model. False and flawed to the core. Lies, denials, falsehoods, the whole enchilada. None of what they are saying is true. Despite all this, No rock layers containing fossils of all animals and people mixed together was ever found, there is tons of evidence for the Continental drift, countless incidents of gradual burials of FAR LESS than billions of dead things laid down in various kinds of rock, other than mud, by various circumstances occurring in many different periods of time all over the earth, scores of transitional forms, and a whole host of others evidences of an ancient earth YECs deliberately chose to deny. Page 46 shows the acknowledgments and an address to get a teachers guide to the book. The better to brainwash students into believing in young earth lies with. Page 47 finally shows the index of the book.
Conclusion
David Unfred obviously works alongside of Carl Baugh, the YE creationist some YECs regarded as a kook. In my view, ALL YECs are kooks no matter what they say and do. This book teaches nothing of what the book claims to teach about dinosaurs, evolution, and earth's history. Nor will the Bible help you with your education about dinosaurs, evolution, and earth's history either. There are NO Dinosaurs like Triceratops, Allosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, and Apatosaurus found in the Bible! Instead it contains passages that tells of a dinosaur returning to Noah's ark holding an olive branch on its beak (doves)(Genesis 8:11) and another passage that tells of a flock of dinosaurs feeding Elijah in the wilderness during the first part of the 3 year drought (ravens)(I Kings 17:4) and another passage that tells about dinosaurs that never worry about where to get food because God takes care of them and feed them (sparrows)(Mathew 6:26) and much more. These verses in the Bible refers to these special modern dinosaurs that are all known as birds. Birds are the one and only dinosaurs to have ever be found in the Bible. No, there are NO Mesozoic Non-avian dinosaurs found in the Bible, period.
To learn more about birds (modern dinosaurs) of the bible, visit these web pages of the Daily Bible Study site [1] [2].
So in conclusion, None in the book is proven of what the YECs claim about dinosaurs (Let alone everything else science wise.).
