Dinosaurs Unleashed

From EvoWiki

Jump to: navigation, search

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Crazyharp81602/0932859615.jpg

Dinosaurs Unleashed: The True story of Dinosaurs and Humans is a young earth creationist publication written by Kyle Butt and Eric Lyons and published in 2004 by Apologetics Press. NOT a true story.

Contents

Rebuttal

This is to be more as Dinosaurs Unleashed: The UN-true Story of Dinosaurs and Humans than anything else because these men are lying here. If what the 2 YECs, Kyle Butt and Eric Lyons who made this newest fantasy book is exactly what they claim to be, then we would have seen evidences of dinosaurs and humans found mixed together in the fossil record along with skins and bones made into tools and jewelry, wagons, bridals, leashes, and barns big enough to house them, and real valid authentic images, writings and figures carved exactly by the ancients of long ago as seen in Dinotopia and other forms of science fiction literature, but none are found!


Knowing that dinosaurs poses a major problem for them and their teachings, they realized there are 3 options to consider.


  1. Acknowledged and accept the true dinosaur record, which tells us that dinosaurs did lived and died before humans were around (Good Idea.).
  2. Deny their existence (Bad idea).
  3. Lie about them! Say that dinosaurs lived with man at one point in time (Even Worse.).


Unfortunately, YECs like Ham, Morris, and Hovind chose 3 as their option, Lie about them; Say that dinosaurs lived with man at one point in time and cram them all within their faulty interpretations of the Bible, falsely call them “God's Word” and tell it like it is. They would take certain verses, they think best fits dinosaurs, out of text, like they do in quotes and images, and twisted them around to fit their beliefs about it. If that's called sheer dishonesty as well as blasphemy when they used the Lord they deliberately put into a box as a pawn to help win converts to their group, then I don't know what it is.


This is what I'm reviewing right now, the newest yet, oldest piece of excrement YECs ever churned out of their mouths, put on paper, and turned into a book along with debunking all the YE claims inside it. It's intriguing to find that this book doesn't contain the all-dinosaurs-being-vegetarians-before-the-Fall fallacy as touted around by other YECs such as Ham for instance. Still, this book contains enough falsehoods, fallacies, and blatant lies found inside that gives science, evolution, dinosauria, God, Jesus (who is one and the same along with the Holy Spirit), and Christianity a bad name.

Cover Decription

On the front cover of the book there is a image of a Tyrannosaur chasing away a large flock of sea birds from the shores of a open sea. It would be more realistic if the dinosaur was busy chasing a flock of Ichthyornithses instead of its modern descendants, but this is not what is shown on the cover. On the back cover there are 3 photographs of 2 men, whom are the ones who made the book standing next to 2 cast skeletons of Giganotosaurus and Argentinosaurus, which are on display in the main lobby at the Fernbank Museum of Natural History in Atlanta, Georgia. On the upper left hand corner of the book, there is a brief info on the 2 YECs who travel all over the country poisoning the minds of children with myths and lies disguised as God's truth. On the very bottom right hand corner, there is a Bible passage of Job 12:7-10, which many scientists, old earth creationists, and people like me used to encouraged people and each other to observe God's creation in a most detailed way, being invoked to justify their satanic idiocy. However, they did omit the part about “speaking to the earth and it will teach you” knowing that that part is used a lot of time by those who oppose the 2 men's views to encourage each other to observe and learn about the earth's real past which has everything to do with the opposite of what the 2 YECs claim in this book.

Intro Pages

On the 3rd intro page of the book, going past the intro title page and the page where it shows the credits, copyrights, and the dedications of the book, there is an image of a pair of stegosaurs walking across a large field of sunflowers with a lot of birds of modern descendants of maniraptorian ancestors flocking all over their backs and plates. At the bottom of the page on a brick wall, the 2 YECs blatantly lie to the reader right from the start,


“The World of dinosaurs was not a world unknown to man. In the past he walk with them. He ate with them. And the first man, Adam, even gave them names (Genesis 2:19-20)”


The World of the Dinosaurs was TOO a world unknown to man. The truth is that the only dinosaurs to have ever walked and ate with man, especially Adam who gave them names as told in Genesis 2:19-20 are all birds and that's it. YECs lie even more. They declared,


“Dinosaurs were created by God during the Creation week, and for thousands of years lived upon the Earth as a sign to humans of God's awesome power and creative ability.”


This above is blatantly false. There's no evidence of this being found in the fossil record. Dinosaurs were never alive and living other than birds to give people a sign of God's awesome power and creative ability. They've been extinct for 65 million years, about 60 million years before the dawn of man. How was man suppose to know all of this while they've all been dead for 65 million years, except birds, and were completely unknown to man at that time when the early ancestors of man first appeared on earth around 4 million years ago and modern man first appearing around 1 million years ago later on? Otherwise we would be seeing them being buried in tombs along with man as well as described in songs, stories, manuscripts, sculptures, and monuments; exactly like what is seen in Dinotopia; all valid, all in-text, all authentic, and all dated thousands of years old. But none are found!


This statement,

“Unfortunately, evolutionists have tried to tell us that dinosaurs lived millions and millions of years ago before humans, but that is not true.”


is not a true statement itself. YECs believe this book will help us discover the “true” story of how dinosaurs and humans once lived together, while in fact it will do is nothing but parade myth, hoax, and fantasy disguise as biblical, gospel truth right before our very eyes. This, what they promote in the book, is all coming from their minds, not from true evidence.

Brief History

Pass the page where we see a list of dinosaur pronunciations planted on a background design that shows fainted images of dinosaurs and man in a Dinotopian like setting, which includes a tyrannosaur looking around a building; A ceratopsian drinking from a well; a man riding a rearing sauropod-type dinosaur like a horse; and a Triceratops pulling a wagon with a man on top of it, there is the first page that tells of the history of dinosaur discovery and how in 1822, while Dr. Gideon Mantell visits another patient, Mary Anne Mantell, his wife discovered some fossilized teeth embedded in cobblestone rock later identified as teeth belonging to Iguanodon, an Early Cretaceous dinosaur that lived over 100 million years ago and how Sir Richard Owen, in 1842, coined the word Dinosauria which means “fearfully great reptile.”

Claim About How Fossils Are formed

Pages 2 and 3 shows the YECs' own version of how a fossil is formed (The first image shows an unlikely scenario of a drowning dinosaur located underwater about to be engulfed in a folding tsunami of mostly dirt sediment! An example of the Hydrolic sorting myth YECs often propose from time to time to explain the fossil record I guess.) and claims that the dinosaur fossils are all the result of the fabled Worldwide Flood and tries to prove of how fossils can be formed very rapidly by showing an example of an alleged miner's hat and a cowboy boot with a bone inside of it that's dubbed the “Limestone Cowboy.” These 2 are full fledged hoaxes made up by YECs who don't understand the concept of fossils, fossilization, and concretion. The boot still has leather in it and never became totally replaced 100% with stone minerals in it. So, it was never fossilized to begin with. Note: In order for an object to officially become a fossil, it must have all of the original materials of the object be completely replaced with the minerals coming from the ground, turning the object to stone. Plus, the rocks embedded in and around the boot is actually either concretion or harden plaster. Also, there was a large thick leg bone that is actually that of a cow, not a human. This hoax is paraded by some YECs such as Carl Baugh, Kent Hovind, and a few others. The hat according to Michael Suttkus is actually concretion, not a fossil at all. Like all YECs, these 2 men believed that all dinosaur fossils have all been formed during Noah's Flood, which there is no evidence for. Every faulty proof they have is no proofs at all.

Digging Up And Putting Together A Dinosaur Fossil

Pages 4 and 5 tells how do scientists dug up dinosaur fossils and build it up to form of a skeleton that will eventually be put on display in a museum. YECs admits that fossils are very exciting, which they are because they tell us about creatures that lived in the past. They go on by saying that Dinosaurs are one group of these fascinating creatures and has captured the attention of everybody, kids and adults. Scientists do learn about lots of interesting fact about dinosaurs by studying their fossils. Some ate meat, while other ate plants. Some were are big as a dog and others were ten times the size of an elephant. YECs also admit that since we found only fossils and a few remains (actually there are lots of remains of dinosaurs found), there is lots about dinosaurs we cannot know about. I.E. their color of their skin, the sounds that they make, etc. Much of what we know about them is based on their studies and learning about how they lived, flourish, what they ate, and how they die. They also admitted that scientists would make more discoveries in years to come that would change the way people would think of dinosaurs and show to them which idea is right and which is wrong. However the 2 lying YECs boldly and blatantly declared,

“But one thing that will not changed is the fact that the notion that claims that God created these creatures alongside of humans only a few thousand years ago is all a blatant lie." (My Emphases in bold thrown in)

The Bone Wars

Page 6 tells of the “Bone Wars” between Othniel Charles Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope claiming that dinosaurs were made famous because of the feud, while in fact dinosaurs were already made famous before that due to the efforts made by Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins' who worked with Sir Richard Owen to create life size dinosaur models for the Crystal Palace Exhibition based on studies of 3 of the first dinosaur fossils ever found by man as well as made up books, posters, and smaller models to help spread these new discoveries to all parts of the world as told in this well known award winning book, The Dinosaurs of Waterhouse Hawkins by Barbara Kerley.

Dinosaurs Featured In The Book

Page 7 tells of the discovery of Megalosaurus, the first dinosaur ever discovered by man that lived during the Jurassic Period about 189-169 million years ago. No big deal.

Page 8-9 tells of Iguanodon, an Early Cretaceous dinosaur that lived over 100 million years ago. In it the YECs would invoked the myth of Noah's flood to explain how over 30 Iguanodons have perished and how plants that exist during Iguanodon's time has turned to coal in what is now Belgium. What the YECs claim about the Iguanodons and the plants is false. Paleontologist Dr. David Norman (1987) an expert on Iguanodon have studied the area and found that there was no evidence of catastrophic event of any kind to have ever occurred that caused the fossils to form. Each fossil was from 4 different layers, which means the dinosaurs has died there at certain periods of time, not in a one-day period. Plus scientists have also discovered that coal does form gradually over a period of eons instead of a short time.

Reference, Norman, D. B. 1987. On the history of the discovery of fossils at Bernissart in Belgium. _Archives of Natural History_, 14(1): 59-79.

Page 10-12 tells of Tyrannosaurus Rex, the most famous of all dinosaurs that lived about 67-65 million years ago in what is now North America.

Page 13 tells of Giganotosaurus, the largest predatory dinosaur to have ever ruled South America during the Early Cretaceous Period about 100 million years ago.

Page 14 tells of Spinosaurus, the sail-back dinosaur from Cretaceous Africa, now regarded as the largest predator in the world, that lived about 90 million years ago in what is now Egypt and Moracco.

Page 15 tells of Allosaurus that lived 150 million years ago in what is now North America during the Jurassic Period. In it, the YECs invoked the myth of over 40 Allosaurs remains found in Utah to be victims of Noah's flood while in fact they were all victims of a mud trap similar to the La Brea tar pits from the Pleistocene Epoch between 40,000 and 8,000 years ago. There were more meat-eaters than plant-eaters found in that area which lead scientists to think there was once a mud pit in this area and sometimes, a certain plant-eater like Stegosaurus would wallow into the water of the lake only to find that it was not a lake but a mud trap and wound up getting stuck and bogged down into this death trap. An Allosaur would foolishly try to get at the corpse of Stegosaurus only to find itself getting helplessly stuck and bogged down there as well.

Pages 16 and 17 shows a large image of a large herd of Apatosaurus wandering in a landscape that's filled with Modern African animals. Something you'll never see neither in real life, nor in the fossil record. No dinosaurs, all other ancient animals, and modern animals have ever been found mixed together with each other in neither one whole layer nor in all layers (that, and no remains of Apatosaurus have ever been found in Africa, either). However, YECs, who live in denial, would rather have you believe the opposite of what the fossil record tells us, which is not a wise thing to do. Note that one Apatosaurus in front has some sort of skin peelings on it's back, falsely implying that since dinosaurs were reptiles, perhaps like lizards and snakes, dinosaurs probably shed their skin too. However there is no evidence for it, as the only reptiles known to shed their skins in large pieces are snakes and lizards. The back is also completely swarmed with large flocks of Pterosaurs looking a lot like Pteranodons (which never lived during Apatosaurus day.) occupying Apatosaurus back to get at the parasites that's sucking the blood of the dinosaur just like what is shown in the Walking with Dinosaurs series. Except that the pterosaur that swarmed the backs and sides of Diplodocus were actually Anurognathus, a bug-eating pterosaur much smaller than Pteranodon.

Page 18 tells of Apatosaurus, a massive sauropod that lived during the Jurassic Period 150 million years ago living at the same time as the dinosaur shown on page 19.

Page 19 tells of Brachiosaurus, a 150 million year old Jurassic sauropod that was, essentially, a dinosaurian giraffe.

Pages 20 and 21 tells of Argentinosaurus and Seismosaurus, 2 dinosaurs from the Late Jurassic to Early Cretaceous period that are among the largest dinosaurs ever to walked the earth. Page 21 claims that Scientists are puzzled about how creatures this large could have eaten enough to survive. While those who “believe” in evolution (YECs and other evolution deniers would make that statement to imply falsely that evolution is the same as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, while YECism is actually right up there where the Easter Bunny, Fairies, Gnomes, and Santa Claus is at.) wonder what cause the dinosaurs to reach such giant size, YECs, on the other hand, just simply invoke the empty “Goddidit”strawman remark of “Evolution did not make Seismosaurus, Argentinosaurus, or any other dinosaur (It simply modifies them. My emphases in bold.); God did!” just to avoid engaging in things they cannot understand. They even invoked the verse in the Bible taken out of text in Psalm 147:9 to help invoke the “Goddidit” remark on how did the dinosaurs find food to help satisfy their huge appetites. When put in full text, the verse actually describing of how God is to be praised for providing food for cows; cattle, the psalmist's livestock, not dinosaurs. In some versions of the Bible, it does refer word 'cattle' as “beasts.” Yet, in others versions, the word just simply translates as 'cattle'.

Pass the picture of Seismosaurus on page 22, there is a image on page 23 that shows an unlikely scene of a Compsognathus stalking a rodent among the skeletal remains of a Pachycephalosaurus while some human hunters were looking on. YECs in the description would say that rodents along with all other animals and dinosaurs were made on day six of the fabled YEC creation week, while in fact, both rodents (Which all mammals resembled as until the dinosaur extinction that occurred 65 million years ago.) and dinosaurs were around since the dawn of the age of dinosaurs, when rodents-like mammals evolved from mammal-like reptiles like Cynognathus and dinosaurs evolved from archosaurian ancestors such as Euparkeria and Ornithosuchus about 225 million years ago in the Early to Late Triassic Period.

Page 24 tells of Deinonychus, a sickled clawed dinosaur that is now known to have feathers all over its body. Yet, YECs still draw the dinosaur the old fashioned way, with scales.

So do they draw Troodon that way, on page 25, as well. Note of how in most cases in the book that the dinosaurs, humans, and modern animals are all drawn in a comic book fashion. Possibly this is where they get all their fantasies along with all other forms of science fiction literature and media and their faulty interpretations of the Bible from.

Page 26 shows an image that is never shown in the fossil evidence. A Velociraptor fighting a Protoceratops, incorrectly showing a spike growing at the very top of its frill. YECs probably got the idea of drawing Protoceratops this way after hearing about a recent theory based on evidence that tells of where the mythological story of the Griffin, a half lion, half eagle has originated from. It was based on actual sightings of fossil remains of Protoceratops made by ancient Scythian traders exploring Mongolia in the 6th-8th centuries BCE. (Reference here.) In this scene, they are both unaware of a massive Tsunami of Noah's Flood coming their way while the other dinosaurs and cattle in the background are panicking just before being engulfed in it. The 2 dinosaurs were actually killed 80 million years ago in a huge sandstorm that overtook them both by surprise and buried them both in the sands of the desert while they were locked in mortal combat.

Note the incorrect showing of the top spike in the red circle in the picture.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Crazyharp81602/Protoceratopsfrillincorrectlyhasasp.jpg

Protoceratops wrongfully showing a spike on its frill as shown in the red circle.

Page 27 tells of Oviraptor, the “egg thief” that's actually an egg nurse that cared from both eggs and young 80 million years ago, living at the same time as Protoceratops and Velociraptor.

Page 28 tells of Pachycephalosaurus, the bone headed dinosaur from the Late Cretaceous Period of North America.

Page 29 tells of Parasaurolophus, a Hadrosaur that lived 70 million years ago in what is now North America. There is a falsehood shown on that page of this dinosaur perhaps being able to spit out gas or harmful substance from its hollow crest, while there's no evidence for the dinosaur to do this. This is something YECs all made up from their heads based on a passage from Job 41 about a fire breathing creature, which is probably a metaphor for the croc's bad breath.

Page 30 tells of Lambeosaurus, another hadrosaur with a hatchet shaped crest on its head. Note how the dinosaur is drawn wrong in the picture. Just like many toy companies out there that make dinosaur toys, YECs never got their dinosaurs drawn right no matter what they do. Especially the one baby dinosaur image (below) shown on the upper right hand corner in page 71, where it shows a ceratopsian sleeping on a bed of foliage with no beak in front of its mouth and feet that bore only 2 toes each, while the dinosaur is suppose to have a beak as well as 5 toes in the front feet and 4 toes in the back.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Crazyharp81602/Beakless-Horned-Dinosaur.jpg

A sleeping horned dinosaur with no beak.

Lambeosaurus never had a concave back despite what is shown in the picture below. Also YECs are unaware that the crest on its head was never used to breathe underwater because of it being much too small.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Crazyharp81602/07-25-2005-022119PM.jpg

Lambeosaurus with a concave back.

Page 31 in the upper part of the page shows Edmontosaurus eating as it sheds its skin like a lizard. There's no evidence of dinosaurs shedding their skin like a snake or a lizard as they grow found in the fossil record. They are not related to snakes and lizards, but birds and crocodiles instead.

The bottom of page 31 tells briefly of Corythosaurus another duckbilled dinosaur that has a crest on top of its head. All 3 dinosaurs lived during the Cretaceous Period at the same time as each other about 70-65 million years ago at the same time as Tyrannosaurus, Gorgosaurus, Anatotitan, Triceratops, and others.

Page 32 tells of Triceratops the three-horned dinosaur that actually never met and fought with Spinosaurus that's wrongly shown to have an extra 4th finger on its right arm, because of the continents of Africa and North America gradually being split apart to from the continents we know of today.

Page 33 tells of Styracosaurus, a relative of Triceratops that lived 77-70 million years ago during the Cretaceous Period.

Pages 34 and 35 tells of Stegosaurus, a well known Late Jurassic dinosaur with bony plates on its back and a spike tail that lived 150 million years ago in North America. Note the image of a Stegosaur herd walking across a field of sunflowers behind a brick wall being shown again, this time in full frontal view except for the brick wall, at the bottom of the 2 pages that's cropped off.

Pages 36 and 37 tells of Ankylosaurus, a fully armored dinosaur that was one of the last non-avian dinosaurs to become extinct 65 million years ago.

Marine Reptiles

Pages 38 and 41 tells of Marine Reptiles that lived at the same time as the dinosaurs such as Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus. On page 41, the YECs falsely assumes that the fabled Leviathan of Job 41 did exist through those creatures even though they admit they don't know what the creature is like. More on this later.

Pterosaur Fabrication

Pages 42-45 tells about Pterosaurs like Pteranodon and Pterodactylus that lived at the same time as the dinosaurs and went extinct alongside of the non-avian dinosaurs 65 million years ago. YECs, while ignorant of the fact that Pterosaur remains were never found above the Mesozoic strata, made a false claim of records being made by Isaiah, Josephus, and Herodotus that tells of flying reptiles that lived alongside of man, while in fact none of the descriptions of “flying serpents” ever match that of Pterosaurs. First off, Pterosaurs have hair, have bodies like gorillas, heads like birds, and wings with only one 4th elongated finger supporting on each side.

Herodotus, Isaiah, Strabo, and Josephus may be actually describing, not Pterosaurs, but tree snakes (which explains one account being made that mentions the flying serpents to have no legs.) such as the paradise tree snake, Biologist Jake Socha has been studying according to this article published in May 13, 2005. The 'fiery flying sepents' described by Isaiah may have been referring to tree snakes, not Pterosaurs. They have a painful, poisonous bite that can kill mainly small prey and can also kill people who are highly allergic to their venom. The term, 'fiery flying serpents' in the verse is used to describe the tree snakes' painful poisonous bite that can be compaired to a painful burn after one carelessly touched hot flames on a stove or an open fire. The Sacred Ibis' favorite food could possibly be tree snakes that once invaded Arabia and Egypt before they were killed and devoured by the Ibis. Herodotus may have saw a graveyard of tree snakes in the town of Buto in Arabia when he referred to seeing long ribs sticking out of the ground. When tree snakes took off into the air from a tree branch, they would expand their ribs to form wings that helps them float in the air. Moses, according to Josephus who probably was referring to another person, other than the famous Moses who brought the people out of Egypt, carried Ibises to help defend himself against the tree snakes; people used to use smoke to drive out the tree snakes from fruit and fragrance trees. Strabo may have saw tree snakes on his exploration to India. None of what the men have seen in the past were pterosaurs at all, but saw the tree snakes instead.

Where the YECs got this fabricated concept of all those flying serpents being Pterosaurs is most likely, other than their heads, found in a very old outdated book from the late 1800s that's called Mythical Monsters by Charles Gould, which it's now available on line in form of a PDF file.

Archaeopteryx

Pages 46-47 tells of Archaeopteryx YECs falsely regarded as just a bird. YECs claim that some characteristics of dinosaurs did not prove that it was a missing link while in fact it does.

Archaeopteryx was a feathered coelurosaur that lived during the Late Jurassic Period 150 million years ago in what is now Germany. This dinosaur, no bigger than a pigeon, has a coat of feathers all over its body and have great multiple features that tells us that Archaeopteryx was a close relative to Compsognathus. When the feathers are removed, you could swear this is just another species of Compsognathus. But, put in the feathers and you get Archaeopteryx. Compsognathus may have a coat of feathers on its body, but perhaps not as elaborate as Archaeopteryx. Archaeopteryx has feathers all over its body to help protect itself from the cold as well as help it to fly. The feathers must have been colorful to attract mates. Each wing has 3 digit clawed fingers that is used to grip the trunks and branches of a tree. However, its dinosaurian legs would not allow the dinosaur to perch on the tree branches, though. It lacked a beak despite what the 2 YECs claim in the book. Instead, it had jaws that's filled with sharp teeth used to eat all sorts of small prey including small mammals, lizards, and insects.

YECs tried to refute the notion of Archaeopteryx not being a transitional form, but just a bird by giving out a list of what they believe to be evidence for their claims shown here on page 46-47 in the book. One of the claims include the hoatzin claim, where the young earthers claim that Archaeopteryx is exactly the same as the hoatzin while it's not due to the fact that the hoatzin has claws on its wings only when it's a young hatchling. It will loses its claws when it grows into adulthood and have normal developed modern wings just like other modern birds of today.

Another claim is made by creationists is the notion about an alleged claim of fossil birds found underneath the layers where the Archaeopteryx fossil was unearthed from. This refers to the discovery of a supposed early bird-like dinosaur known as "Protoavis." The scientist, Sankar Chatterjee, who claims to have discover the fossil, for some reason, would not let other scientists examine the fossil. But he did published a drawing of the reconstruction of the fossil as well as a photograph of the creature's remains. However, some scientists regards this as a chimera and concluded that the creature doesn't exist. Whatever the creature is real or not is a subject of much debating. Yet, the YECs take advantage of this and began to used the Protoavis fossil (They distort by claiming that there are fossilized birds found in Texas at the bottom layer underneath the layer where Archaeopteryx was found embedded in.) as evidence against the notion of Archaeopteryx being the "world's first bird" and a transitional form. However, this fails miserably to explain how come there are features of a theropod dinosaur found in Archaeopteryx alongside of avian features. No doubt, YECs are at a loss for words so they resort to the flawed “common Designer” philosophy instead to help brushed off the truth and pretend it's not there.

Here are 2 links that refutes the claim about Archaeopteryx being “just a bird.” as well as a link to a article in evowiki that tells of the Protoavis controversy.

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/archie.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/archaeopteryx.html

http://wiki.cotch.net/wiki.phtml?title=The_Protoavis_controversy

Continued to part 2.

Personal tools