List of creationist arguments
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The original list of Creationist arguments was compiled by Talk.Origins regular, Mark Isaak, and answers to many of the claims can already be found on the newsgroup, and on Mark's page at http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/index.html
See also: List of controversies, List of creationism topics, Category:Creationist claims
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Philosophy and Theology
Ethics
- Evolution is the foundation of an immoral worldview
- Darwin was an Atheist
- Survival of the fittest implies might makes right
- Evolution is racist
- Evolution encourages eugenics
- Evolution encourages promiscuity and lust
- Evolution teaches that we are animals and to behave as such
- Homosexuality receives approval from evolutionists
- Evolutionists are intellectual snobs
- Biology can reasonably be taught without evolution
- Scientists lie if they talk about an old earth and evolution
- Evolution asserts that human thoughts and behaviors are dictated by our biology and environment
Epistemology
Foundation of Knowledge
- Argument from incredulity
- Argument from Authority
- An evolved mind is fallible, its conclusions untrustworthy
- Since many details of evolution are questioned by evolutionists, one should question the whole theory
Theory of Science
- Evolution is only a theory
- Evolution hasn't been proved
- Evolution doesn't make predictions
- Evolution can't be falsified
- Evolution is not useful
- Evolution is ambiguously defined
- Evolution can't be replicated
- Were you there?
- Creation can't be disproved
- Evolution should be treated as a matter of belief
- Interpreting evidence is not the same as observation
- Ockham's Razor says simplest explanation (creation) is preferred
- Scientific findings are always changing
Pedagogy
- Fairness demands evolution and creation be given equal time
- Teach the controversy
- Teach the weaknesses
- Common Question Argument
Scientific Method
- Science is naturalistic
- Scientists find what they expect to find
- Scientists are pressured not to challenge established dogma
- Scientists are motivated to support naturalism and reject creationism
- Many scientists are willing to bend observations to make them fit evolution
- Acceptance of evolution instead of creation has psychological rather than scientific reasons
- Creationists are prevented from publishing in science journals
- Evolutionists don't accept debate challenges
- No gradual biochemical evolution models have been published
- Survival of the fittest is a tautology
- Creationism and evolution are the only 2 models
- There is no other working explanation besides creation
- Evolution excludes the existence of a creator
- The Origin of Species does not address speciation
- Biologists will want to throw you out of the class if you don't believe in evolution
- People will stop believing in evolution after you feed them creationist arguments
- Evolutionary explanations keep changing, while creationist accounts remain the same
Theology
- Biblical Creationism
- Evolution requires naturalism
- Evolution is atheistic
- Evolution is a religion
- If man comes from random causes, life has no purpose or meaning
- Without a literal Fall, there is no need for Jesus and redemption
- Animals are not moral, esthetic, idealistic, or religious
- Do you want to be descended from a monkey?
- Death and suffering before humanity implies an unmerciful God
- Pope's statement about evolution was mistranslated
- It is not true that the church used to teach a flat earth
- The proposition that human beings are created in the image of God is one of the bedrock principles on which Western civilization was built
Biology
Abiogenesis
- Pasteur proved life only comes from life (law of biogenesis)
- The odds of life forming are incredibly small
- DNA needs proteins to form; Proteins need DNA
- Why isn't new life still being generated today?
- Not all amino acids needed for life have been formed experimentally
- Early molecules would have decayed
- Miller's experiments had invalid assumption of type of atmosphere
- Life uses only left-handed amino acids
- Abiogenesis is speculative, without evidence
- Evolution is baseless without a theory of abiogenesis
- Amino acids would not polymerize
- Naturalistic mechanisms do not provide a means for making life from simple molecules
- Dawkins acknowledges that generation of a self-replicator is more than improbable
- Richard Dickerson had no explanation for generation of macromolecules
- Generation of macromolecules is one of the hardest problems evolutionists have to fight
- Mathematicians regard events with probabilities smaller than x as impossible
- Membranes are too complex to have existed during abiogenesis
- Dawkins said aliens created life on earth
Genetics
- Most mutations are harmful
- Mutations don't add information
- Microevolution selects only existing variation
- Mutations increase genetic load
- Cost of natural selection is prohibitive (Haldane's dilemma)
- Junk DNA is not really junk
- DNA is the result of intelligence because it contains readable information
- It is mathematically impossible to achieve macroevolution by mutation and natural selection
- A one percent difference in chimpanzee-human DNA is huge, given that mice and humans share 98% of their DNA
- Evolution is so improbable that it can be considered impossible
Molecular Biology
Physiology and Anatomy
- Complex organs couldn't have evolved
- The eye is too complex to have evolved
- The ear is too complex to have evolved
- The brain is too complex to have evolved
- The bombardier beetle is too complex to have evolved
- Butterfly metamorphosis is too complex to have evolved
- The giraffe neck couldn't evolve without a special circulatory system
- The woodpecker tongue couldn't have evolved
- Organs and organ systems would be useless until all parts are in place
- Snake venom and hollow fangs couldn't have evolved simultaneously
- Sex can't have evolved
- Vestigial organs may have functions
- Vestigial organs are just evidence of decay, not evolution
- Spinal treatments based on evolutionary theory fail
Behavior and Cognition
- Evolution can't explain consciousness
- Instincts are too complex to have evolved
- Evolution doesn't explain language ability
- Evolution doesn't explain homosexuality
- Evolution doesn't explain morals
- Evolution doesn't explain altruism
- Evolution doesn't explain cooperation
- Evolution doesn't explain art
- Evolution doesn't explain music
- Evolution doesn't explain personality and emotions
- Evolution doesn't explain religion
Botany
- Dendrochronology is suspect because 2 or more rings can grow per year
- Evolution can't explain photosynthesis
Ecology and Population Biology
- The traditional peppered moth story is no longer supportable
- Microevolution selects only existing variation
- The first individual of a new species wouldn't find a mate
- Human population growth indicates a young earth
- Humanity was traced back to an African Eve
Developmental Biology
- Haeckel falsified his embryo pictures
- Human embryos don't have gill slits
- Genes with major effects on development are conserved across phyla
Systematics
- Science can't define species
- Organisms come in discrete kinds
- Homology can't be evidence of ancestry if it is defined thus
- Phylogenetic analyses are inconsistent
- Evolution from a single ancestor is discredited
Evolution
- Macroevolution has never been observed
- Small changes do not imply large changes
- No entirely new features have evolved
- No new species have been observed
- Evolution hasn't been observed nowadays
- No new body parts have evolved
- New structures would be useless until fully developed
- No 2-celled life exists intermediate between one- and multi-celled
- We don't see creatures in various stages of completion
- Preadaptation implies organs evolved before they were needed
- Why aren't beneficial traits evolved more often?
- Evolution doesn't explain our using 1/10th of our brain
- Some fossil species are still living
- Some modern species are apparently degenerate, not higher forms
- Pure chance can't create new structures
- How do things know how to evolve?
- Over-specialization with no adaptive value sometimes occurs
- Long-term trends (orthogenesis) doesn't fit evolutionary theory
- Proposed evolution scenarios are just-so stories
- Biologists say there are six basic concepts of evolution
- Naturalistic mechanisms do not provide a means for making sufficient new genetic material to cause ascent from microscopic organisms to large life forms
- The original organism from which all others are decended has never been observed
Paleontology
Physical Anthropology
Questionable fossils
- Specific hominid fossils were hoaxed
- All human fossils would fit on a billiard table
- Anthropologists disagree
All hominid fossils are fully human or fully ape
- Transitional fossils between man and ape are evolutionist's only hope to find evidence for a relationship
- Neanderthals were fully human and were not a different species
- Evolutionists think that apes became ever fitter when climbing the evolutionary ladder
- Theory of human evolution was based on wishful thinking from the beginning
- Identity of human ancestors is lost in the past
- Neanderthal was based on a disfigured human
- Laetoli footprints were human
- KP 271 (a fossil humerus) was human
- Australopithecus was fully ape, closer to chimp
- Heidelberg Man was built from a jaw bone that was conceded by many to be quite human
- We don't have any evidence of change since Homo sapiens first appeared as a fossil 50,000 years ago
- Pictures of apemen are based on imagination
Human fossils are out of place
- Human footprints have been found with dinosaur tracks at Paluxy
- Sandal footprints have been found associated with trilobites
- Moab man was found in Cretaceous sandstone
- Malachite man was found in Cretaceous sandstone
- Castenedolo, Olmo, and Calaveras skulls were found in Pliocene strata
- Baugh found a fossilized finger from the Cretaceous
- A petrified hammer was found in Cretaceous rocks
- Richard Leakey found a normal human skull under a layer of rock dated at 212 million years
- A 40,000 year-old skeleton found in China has raised questions about the "out of Africa" hypothesis on how early modern humans populated the planet.
Other Anthropology
- If we're descended from apes, why are there still apes around?
- One suggested ancestry line for humans is: Lucy, Heidelberg Man, Nebraska Man, Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Neanderthal Man, New Guinea Man, Cro-Magnon Man, Modern Man
- New Guinea Man dates way back to 1970 and has been found in the region just north to Australia
Transitional fossils
- The transition of Human skulls are sculptured creations which have been debunked
- Transitional fossils are lacking
- We should see a smooth continuum through the fossil record
- Fossil record doesn't show transition from simple organisms to complex ones since bacteria are already complex
- Evolution requires progress through many nonfunctional intermediates
- Fossil record doesn't show progress
- Some species don't seem to evolve for millions of years
- Speciation hasn't been observed in the fossil record
- Specific examples of non-transition
- There are gaps between invertebrate-vertebrate
- There are gaps between fish-amphibian
- There are gaps between amphibian-reptile
- There are no fossil ancestors of dinosaurs
- There are gaps between reptile-bird
- There are gaps between reptile-mammal
- There are gaps between land mammals and whales
- Horse fossils don't show evolution
- There are no fossil giraffes with shorter necks
- There are no fossil ancestors of monkeys
- Arthropods arose suddenly
- There are no fossil ancestors of insects
- There are no fossil ancestors of plants
- There are gaps between plant-animal
- Anteater evolution is uncertain
Fossil Record
- Cambrian explosion shows all kinds of life appearing suddenly
- Dating of fossils
- The fossil record shows sudden appearance followed by stasis
- Polystrate fossils
- Some fossils are out of place
- Some fossils are faked
- Taphonomy
- The fossil record does not show evidence of reproduction
Methodology
Geology
Geochronology
- Radiometric dating makes false assumptions
- Radiometric dating gives unreliable results
- Carbon dating gives inaccurate results
- Variable C14/C12 ratio invalidates C14 dating
- Vollosovitch and Dima mammoths yielded inconsistent C14 dates
- Living snails were C14 dated at 2,300 and 27,000 years old
- A freshly killed seal was C14 dated at 1300 years old
- Triassic wood from Australia was dated at 33K years old
- Ancient oil is C14 dated as only 50,000 years old
- U-Th dating gives inaccurate results for modern volcanic rocks
- K-Ar dating gives inaccurate results for modern volcanic rocks
- Isochron dating gives unreliable results
- Zircons retain too much helium for an old earth
- Carbon dating gives inaccurate results
- Consistency of radiometric dating comes from selective reporting
- The ages of fossils are arrived at by guessing
- Biologists think that Carbon 14 proves evolution
Geological Column
- Entire geological column doesn't exist
- Geological column is sometimes out of order
- Geologic column is based on the assumption of evolution
- Meteor craters are never found in deeper strata
- Meteorites are never found in deeper strata
Sedimentation
- Uniformitarian assumption is untenable
- Sandstone & shale layers are too extensive for normal deposition
- Limestone & dolomite layers are too extensive for normal deposition
- Mouth of Colorado river doesn't have enough sediments for Grand Canyon
- Mississippi delta could have formed in 5000 years
- Not enough sediments in the ocean for an old earth
- Oceans haven't enough dissolved minerals for an old earth
- Juvenile water is added to oceans too fast for an old earth
- Natural gas escapes too fast to allow for long ages
- High pressures in oil fields would have bled off if earth were old
- Oil seepage would have drained offshore reservoirs in 20,000 years
- Experiments show that strata can violate principles of superposition
- Varves can form in less than a year
- Stalactites can grow very rapidly
Evaporation
- Evaporites could form without evaporation
- Evaporites are too thick
- Evaporites contain no organic matter
Glaciation
Mountain Building
- On an old earth, mountains would have eroded by now
- Volcanic mountains are built too fast for an old earth
- Folded rocks must have been soft when folded
Erosion
- Erosion rate of Niagara Falls' rim indicates young earth
- Average soil depth is consistent with young earth
Geophysics & Plate tectonics
Climate Change
Astronomy
Earth
- Not enough helium in the atmosphere for an old earth
- NASA scientists found a day missing
- Earth's rotation is slowing, indicating a young earth
- An old earth would be covered by 182' of meteoric dust
- The Anthropic Principle: Earth is perfectly in the habitable zone, proving design
Moon
- Not enough moon dust for an old universe
- Moon is receding at a rate too fast for an old universe
- Lunar moonquakes, lava flows, and gas emissions indicates its youth
- Lunar craters must be young due to lunar rock viscosity
Planets & Solar System
- Speed of light is fine-tuned to permit life
- Venus' high temp and atmosphere should have eroded its surface features
- Io's great volcanic activity indicates a young age
- Jupiter and Saturn are cooling too rapidly to be old
- Saturn's rings are unstable
- 3 planets and several moons revolve backwards
- Comets wouldn't have lasted in an old universe
- Solar wind should have cleared inner solar system of microparticles
- Poynting-Robertson effect would remove space dust in an old solar system
Sun & Stars
- Lack of solar neutrinos indicates stellar model is wrong
- Shrinking sun indicates a young sun
- The faint young sun paradox contradicts an old earth
- Sirius was a red star 2000 years ago and is a white dwarf now
- Galaxies should lose their spiral shape over millions of years
- Stars and galaxies are unchanging
- Formation of heavier elements has never been observed
- Formation of stars and planets from gas has never been observed
Cosmology
- There are too few supernova remnants for an old universe
- Physical constants are only assumed constant
- Cosmos has an axis, contrary to Big Bang models
- Red shift comes from light aging, not expansion of the universe
- Where did space, time, energy, and laws of physics come from?
- Explosions such as the Big Bang don't produce order or information
- Big Bang has never been observed
Physics
2nd Law of Thermodynamics and Information Theory
- 2nd law of thermodynamics prohibits evolution
- Complexity doesn't come from simplicity
- How could information, such as in DNA, assemble itself?
- 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to information theory
- Cybernetic simulations show Darwinian processes don't produce order
- Evolutionary algorithms smuggle in design in the fitness function
- Gluons don't exist since no one has seen them, so it must be God who holds the nucleus together
1st Law of Thermodynamics
Radioactive Decay
- Carbon-14 in Coal Deposits indicates a young earth
- Polonium haloes indicate a young earth
- Radiometric dating falsely assumes rates are constant
- Short-lived isotopes Th-230 and U-236 exist on the moon
Miscellaneous Anti-Evolution
History
- Darwin recanted on his death bed
- The oldest living thing is younger than 4900 years
- 3000 years is time enough for all languages, religions to develop
- Oldest structures, such as pyramids, are already very complex
Linguistics
- Chinese glyph for ark is literally 8 mouths
- First known languages are highly complex
- Why are languages getting less complex?
Folklore
- There are flood myths from all over the world
- Babylonian creation myth does not resemble Genesis account
Arguments based upon other scientific fields
Law
- Federal law (Santorum Amendment) supports teaching alternatives
- It has never been against the law to teach the Bible or creation in public schools
- Biologists will want to have you jailed for mentioning Bible or creation in public schools
- Nebraska man was presented as significant evidence in the Scopes trial
- Piltdown man was presented as significant evidence in the Scopes trial
Appeals to fair play
Biblical Creationism
Creationism Generally
- Creationism has explanatory power
- Creationism, being Bible-based, is good
- Genesis is foundational to the Bible
- Non-creationist Christians are compromisers
- Creation can't be disproved
Biblical Accuracy
- The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it
- The Bible is inerrant
- The Bible is literal
- Bible claims inspiration
- Prophecies prove the accuracy of the Bible
- The Bible must be accurate because archaeology supports it
- Bible's accuracy on other scientific points shows overall accuracy
- Bible is unique in other ways
- Bible is harmonious throughout
Young Earth Creationism
Age of the Universe
- The universe is 6000-10000 years old
- The earth is 6000-10000 years old
- The universe was created with apparent age
- Humans are a few thousand years old, not millions
Death and the Fall
- There was no death or decay before the Fall
- Pre-flood vapor canopy would have made world Edenic
- Pre-flood vapor canopy would have extended human lifetimes
- It never rained before the flood
- Life is deteriorating