All hominid fossils are fully human or fully ape

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Contents 1 Claim 2 Source 3 Responses 4 Fallacies contained in this claim 5 External Links 6 References 7 Further Reading 8 Related claims 9 Acknowledgments

Claim

All hominid fossils are fully human or fully ape.

Source

• Yahya, Harun (2005). How the Theory of Evolution Breaks Down in the Light of Modern Science. Darwinism Refuted.

Responses

1. The Comparison of all skulls page in the talk.origins archive provides graphic evidence that this particular Creationist assertion simply is not supported by the evidence.
2. Technically speaking, all species of hominids are apes. In fact, the term "hominid" refers to a kind of ape (i.e., apes that are in the lineage of humans). To say that hominid fossils are either human OR ape would be akin to saying that chihuahuas are either a breed of dog, or a breed of toy dog.
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Fallacies contained in this claim

• False Dilemma (Hominids are either human or ape)
• Exclusion (The fact that humans ARE apes is ignored)
• Suppressed Evidence (of transitional fossils)

External Links

Mark Isaak's page on this claim at Talk.Origins. [1]

Foley, Jim, 1996-2003. Fossil Hominids: The Evidence for Human Evolution. [2]

Drews, Carl, 2002. Transitional Fossils of Hominid Skulls. [3]

Foley, Jim (8/8/05). Comparison of all skulls. Talk.Origins.

References

1. Avarello R, Pedicini A, Caiulo A, Zuffardi O, Fraccaro M, 1992. Evidence for an ancestral alphoid domain on the long arm of human chromosome 2. Hum Genet 89(2): 247-249.
2. Bermudez de Castro, J.M. et al., 1997. A hominid from the Lower Pleistocene of Atapuerca, Spain: Possible ancestor to Neandertals and modern humans. Science 276: 1392-1395.
3. Foley, 1996-2003. (see above)
4. Foley, Jim, 2002. Comparison of all skulls, [4].
5. IJdo JW, Baldini A, Ward DC, Reeders ST, and Wells RA, 1991. Origin of human chromosome 2: an ancestral telomere-telomere fusion. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science USA 88(20): 9051-9055. [5]
6. Lilith, 2003. Alignment of Chimp_rp43-42n4 against Human chromosome [6] See also Lilith, 2003 (Jun 3). Re: Evolutionary Misconceptions on Evolution. [7]
7. White, Tim D. et al., 2003. Pleistocene Homo sapiens from Middle Awash, Ethiopia. Nature 423: 742-747.
8. Yunis, J.J. and Prakash, O., 1982. The origin of man: a chromosomal pictorial legacy. Science 215: 1525-1530.

Further Reading

• Dawkins, R., 1996. Climbing Mount Improbable. London: Viking.
• Johanson, D.C., and Edgar, B., 1996. From Lucy to Language. New York: Simon and Schuster.

Related claims

• Were you there?
• Interpreting evidence is not the same as observation
• Evolutionists interpret evidence based on their preconceptions
• Scientific findings are always changing
• Piltdown man was a hoax
• Piltdown man was the subject of 500 doctoral dissertations
• Nebraska man was a hoax
• Lucy's knee was found far from the rest of the skeleton
• Ten Peking Man skeletons were suppressed
• Peking Man was supposedly 500,000 years old, but all evidence has disappeared
• All human fossils would fit on a billiard table
• Anthropologists disagree
• Homo habilis is an invalid taxon
• French scientists called Peking Man monkey-like
• Identity of human ancestors is lost in the past
• Theory of human evolution was based on wishful thinking from the beginning
• Neanderthals were fully human and were not a different species‎
• Evolutionists think that apes became ever fitter when climbing the evolutionary ladder
• Transitional fossils between man and ape are evolutionist's only hope to find evidence for a relationship
• Neanderthal was based on a disfigured human
• Neanderthals were humans with rickets
• Neanderthal Man, found in France over 50 years ago, is an old man who suffered from arthritis
• Laetoli footprints were human
• KP 271 (a fossil humerus) was human
• Australopithecus was fully ape, closer to chimp
• Most experts now agree that Lucy was only an unusual chimpanzee
• Biologists think that Lucy is the oldest known ancestor of humans
• Heidelberg Man was built from a jaw bone that was conceded by many to be quite human
• We don't have any evidence of change since Homo sapiens first appeared as a fossil 50,000 years ago
• Pictures of apemen are based on imagination
• If we're descended from apes, why are there still apes around?
• One suggested ancestry line for humans is: Lucy, Heidelberg Man, Nebraska Man, Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Neanderthal Man, New Guinea Man, Cro-Magnon Man, Modern Man
• New Guinea Man dates way back to 1970 and has been found in the region just north to Australia
• The transition of Human skulls are sculptured creations which have been debunked
• Transitional fossils are lacking
• There should be billions of transitional fossils
• We should see a smooth continuum through the fossil record

Acknowledgments

• User:Cubist